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Reserving Theaters and Working with Non-Theatre Events

  • 1.  Reserving Theaters and Working with Non-Theatre Events

    Posted 04-13-2016 15:51

    I would be curious to hear how schools handle reservations of their performance spaces. In a large public school, there is always someone using the theaters. This week, we had a Indian Cultural Event on Saturday, Youth Symphony on Sunday, Honors and Awards Ceremony on Monday, National Honor Society on Tuesday, practice for Large Group Music Competition and load in for a ballet on Wednesday, Junior High Music Festival tomorrow, Dry Tech for the ballet on Thursday night, District Inservice on Friday, Tech rehearsal for the ballet on Friday, and two ballet performances on this coming Saturday and Sunday. This is in addition to day time classes and assemblies. Keeping everyone happy is always a challenge, as is preparing the space for each group and cleaning up after they leave.

    And thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

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    David Tate Hastings
    Kansas Thespians
    Co-Chapter Director
    dhastingsos@olatheschools.org
    913-481-1868
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  • 2.  RE: Reserving Theaters and Working with Non-Theatre Events

    Posted 04-13-2016 22:45
    Edited by Michael Johnson 04-14-2016 11:42

    We use a Google Calendar that I update and share online.  Folks can see the events on the calendar and it's on our website, so people can see what's going on.  Our use age is not as heavy but the calendar helps a lot.

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    Michael Johnson
    Trinity NC



  • 3.  RE: Reserving Theaters and Working with Non-Theatre Events

    Posted 04-14-2016 08:01

    I also have this problem. We open The Music Man next week and our set is practically nonexistent because I've had to wait to put it together because of other events. And I had planned on taking one of my classes to the auditorium one day this week to work and there was a special speaker / assembly going on. I reserve our space on the online calendar that everyone can see and specifically request with our secretary that event requests for at least the month prior to performance are denied. But we still get extenuating circumstances that leave us little option to say no. Our principal supports my efforts but the superintendent says our citizens pass a levy continually and so they should get use of our facilities as much as possible. It's very difficult to do as much as I'd like for our productions because of this. 

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    Christina Iman
    Teacher
    Ripley WV



  • 4.  RE: Reserving Theaters and Working with Non-Theatre Events

    Posted 04-14-2016 08:08

    Hey David,

    We have a Performing Arts Supervisor who gets these things set up and also runs the events. I help when I can during the day, but usually the district provides the people to help with these things. The district wants to make money and money talks. They usually give me a say in who can come in and be in the space, and if we have an event, our event does not get moved. But there are some drawbacks. Sometimes the district people have no idea how to run a light or sound board and when they leave, the theatre is usually not in great condition. But I have to say, I have never had any non-district event move my rehearsals or shows. 

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    Dan Schmidt
    Theatre Director
    USD 229
    Prairie Village KS



  • 5.  RE: Reserving Theaters and Working with Non-Theatre Events

    Posted 04-14-2016 09:34

    Unfortunately, I work at a school where the fine arts departments have virtually no say in the use of the auditorium. They just tell me when they need the space and I have to work around it. I can sometimes fight for it when we are in tech etc, but sometimes we still lose it. We had the set for the winter play built and bolted to the stage and the person in charge of the Spelling Bee had maintenance take it apart without even consulting us. It was a crazy event and luckily I think that made administration change their mind about letting people use the auditorium during tech week. 

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    Elizabeth Nelson
    Drama Teacher
    Shawnee Mission, KS



  • 6.  RE: Reserving Theaters and Working with Non-Theatre Events

    Posted 04-15-2016 12:11
    I say the Serenity Prayer a lot.  Not that I'm a big religious type person, but after 16 years I have decided that letting the ignorant bother me is not worth my time.

    Every year I really WANT to say at our opening staff meeting "I don't shit on your desk so please don't leave your stuff in the theatre after an event."  But I never do.  

    I grumble less about it now.
    It's just not worth my time, health and sanity to worry about like I did for a good dozen (plus) years.
    It still does bother me though...

    That's my perspective.


    Ms. Valerie O'Riordan
    Drama Director, Teacher
    MFA, AEA, #FFTFellow
    Archbishop Riordan High School
    175 Phelan Ave SF 94112
    415.587.5866 

    The Frogs
    April 15, 16 @ 8pm
    April 17 @ 2pm











  • 7.  RE: Reserving Theaters and Working with Non-Theatre Events

    Posted 04-14-2016 11:27

    We don't have as much outside usage at my school, but the other auditorium in the district gets a lot. Our district was in the same mindset of gaining money. They were, however, open to listening to the drama teachers. We told them about lamp life for lights, custodial issues, cost of replacement of curtains and mics that have gotten damaged, etc. They allowed us to set more stringent requirements for outside groups, with a sliding cost scale for added usage. They listened with wide eyes and open mouths, as they hadn't ever considered the true cost of renting the facilities. 

    As far as the calendar goes, I'm really lucky in that. The person who schedules district or school events always checks with me before she agrees to anything. Occasionally there are some conflicting, or close calls, but for the most part it works well.

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    Ellen Di Filippo
    Tracy CA



  • 8.  RE: Reserving Theaters and Working with Non-Theatre Events

    Posted 04-14-2016 11:50

    We have a bit of a frustrating process, but I've learned (the hard way) how to make it work. Near the end of the school year (in May, I think), the ASB and club advisers (Drama, Band, Choir, etc.) get together and map out our schedule for the next year, including usage of the auditorium, and other important activities such as sporting events and dances so that there are no conflicts. This all goes on one big master calendar for the school. However, as I have learned the hard way, this does not reserve our auditorium space. To do that, I need to fill out many different forms to reserve the space and send them down to someone at the district office to officially put us on the calendar (which I can later view in Outlook, but not edit). In the past, I have had problems with other outside groups (or ones from other schools) getting reserved because I didn't send the right form to the office (even though I reserved it in house earlier). Luckily, my administration has been good about making sure I have priority over these outside groups. I have also learned that when I have a large and complicated set (i.e. bolted to the ground) I need to tell them to completely block-off the auditorium from all other usage for about 3 weeks prior to performance, but that has been difficult, and hasn't endeared me to the other groups that use our space. Because of this hassle, I usually have at least one show per year that has a very flexible set so as to avoid conflicts.

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    Christopher Hamilton
    Drama Teacher
    Kennewick WA



  • 9.  RE: Reserving Theaters and Working with Non-Theatre Events

    Posted 04-14-2016 22:43

    Hi all

    For organizing, I use Google Calendar, like Michael, to manage the spaces under our control.  I keep a GCal for each venue, and a CGal for each show.  The venues include several on campus performances venues, a performance space in a local middle school, and about a dozen rehearsal spaces.  I only allow a small select group of trusted people to make changes to the GCals for the spaces, but I allow the SM and TD for each of our 16 productions each year to control their own calendars.  The organizers of the productions can move their events around inside the time during which they have the space booked, but they cannot extend the space booking without a pass through the production office.   The nice thing about our calendar system is that anyone in the school can see what is happening in any space at any time, or they can isolate only the show they are working on and see what is happening on their show, and where.  They can access the info from any mobile device or any computer platform.

    For those of you who have venues that are booked or controlled by someone in admin, especially if they really don't understand how the space needs to be used, I have one suggestion that has worked well for me in the past.  It may or may not fit into your solution set, but its worth tossing up on the board for consideration.  In some cases, those folks in admin really do not want to be in control of the spaces because it is just another bother in their somewhat busy day. Also, there is sometimes a perception that we, in the arts, are not all that good at organizing (insert face palm here).  If the prime users of the spaces offer to create a transparent booking system, and dedicate the time necessary to maintain it, the authority to book the spaces may fall to them.  In other words, if the job of booking the spaces can be done effectively by those who primarily use them, in many cases, admin would rather not have to bother with it and will pass it along.  The politics have to be right for this to work, but it was worth tossing out for you to consider :-).

    Hope it helped.

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    Tracy Nunnally
    NIU - Professor/TD/Area Head
    Vertigo - Owner/System Designer
    ETCP Certified Rigger/Trainer
    DeKalb, Illinois



  • 10.  RE: Reserving Theaters and Working with Non-Theatre Events

    Posted 04-14-2016 22:57

    If it’s got to this point, I can’t recommend enough that you start getting your district involved with hiring a Theatre Manager and Technicians – for school, district and outside events. Tell them ‘but my friends are all doing it’ – which is true, it’s becoming more and more common place for high school theatres to (finally) be staffed as much as their sports stadiums.

    I’m not surprised you are frustrated (everyone sounds frustrated) – high school theatres these days are essentially road houses. And school district administrators typically jump to the conclusion that their Drama teachers can run the facility, and that outside events that rent the facility can have full reign with a custodian or other district employee to site supervise. But Drama teachers and custodians are not theatre technicians and managers, and theatres are not classrooms.

    Highly qualified staff are needed in order to set up the operating systems (for example, to make sure that the space is prepared for each event’s needs, and to make sure that everything is restored to ‘rep’ after each event), create a safety program (I could go on forever about safety!), maximize student learning (technicians act as mentors and students get real life training). In other words you need a High School Theatre Manager and technicians. In Dan’s case, it’s great that there is a theatre supervisor, but the district has to understand that district employees can’t act as technicians in a theatre. It won’t cost them any more to hire theatre technicians, who can work on a overhire basis. Technicians can keep a lighting rep plot intact and a sound board set up and ready to go, and make sure that no one kills anyone with the rigging. Tell your district the things that Ellen did – open their eyes. Use the words “preservation of expensive equipment” and “liability” – those usually work! Another reason to have a Theatre Manager is so that the Drama Teacher doesn’t get stuck in the middle, like Christopher mentioned. People are not endeared to him because they see him as the decision maker. In actual fact, the school play is just another event that comes into the theatre (albeit for weeks, rather than hours or days), which needs to be treated equally. A Theatre Manager will take the brunt of the scheduling juggling, the Drama Teacher shouldn’t.

    Typically school events get first dibs – after all, it is a school. In my years as a Theatre Manager, we never released dates to the rest of the district or to the public until each September, once the school calendar was finalized. But, then after that, if an outside group booked the theatre, a school group couldn’t usurp them (outside groups need to know their dates are secure in order to do their own marketing, etc), but could schedule around them. Most school districts have their own calendars, but an at-a-glance publicly accessible calendar just for the theatre is a good idea. It does mean keeping two calendars, but it makes scheduling a lot easier. So do theatre-specific rental forms.

    In the case of the school play it’s best if you help the administration to understand that once a set goes in, as in Christina and Elizabeth’s situations, that the theatre is then blocked out to any other events. Sometimes because of other bookings the set can’t be loaded in until last minute right before tech week, but in return the school play should have full uninterrupted usage of the stage for the weeks of tech and performances.

    We – who are in the know – need to be really proactive with our school and district administrations. Keep in mind that when they go to see a show, all they see is the polished performance - the magic. “Muggles” don’t have any comprehension of how the magic happens, so we need to educate them. And yes, sometimes it’s like pulling teeth, but we’re all in this together, and I believe we can – eventually – achieve this nationwide.

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    Beth Rand
    Founder and Executive Director
    www.PRESETT.org
    Woodinville WA



  • 11.  RE: Reserving Theaters and Working with Non-Theatre Events

    Posted 04-15-2016 11:21

    Hi, great question. We have a building manager who handles all scheduling. But specifically with the shows and concerts, she blocks out a week as arts Tech week so performance is given first priority and to cover any as needed time to build, paint, etc. If nothing is going on and an assembly is needed it is possible to close our main curtain and still have the assembly in front of it. Not sure if this helps, but good luck. Space is a premium here like many schools.

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    James Fry
    Director of Student Life & Malvern Theatre Society
    West Chester PA



  • 12.  RE: Reserving Theaters and Working with Non-Theatre Events

    Posted 04-17-2016 10:41

    We also have a very busy auditorium. Each spring the performing arts dept sits down with administration to set the calendar for the following year, as we take priority. We still have to fill out individual paperwork to a secretary that manages the calendar. When someone requests use of the auditorium they have to go through her & fill out paperwork. If something else is already scheduled in there, then they have to go to that person to work a deal. We keep a shared google calendar so we can all see what is scheduled in there at any time. Outside groups pay a rental fee to use the auditorium. The money goes into an account that is for care & maintenance of the auditorium. We have a part time auditorium manager that handles all the tech needs for each group, manages load in & out, & manages outside groups from destroying our sets, props, etc. 

    There isn't a single day that is not scheduled in our space. Part of that is because I've learned to schedule my classes in there. For tech, the stage is my classroom. I find it easier to have other groups come to me to work out use of the auditorium so I can prepare my classwork (esp. Tech) around it. When I didn't schedule it I would plan work & walk into a surprise mtg taking place & we couldn't work. People would look for a meeting place on the calendar, find the auditorium open, and just move in there & suddenly I'm without a classroom. I think scheduling & communication are key.

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    Jeana Whitaker
    Theatre Director
    Mesa AZ