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Hercules the Musical

  • 1.  Hercules the Musical

    Posted 09-09-2015 11:16

    This year I have given my students the opportunity to help choose out spring musical and on of the shows that has come up in discussion is Disney's Herucules. Now upon my research on it I have found there are no rights or scripts available anywhere yet I have found a high school that performed the show in question last June. So my question is, does any one have any idea how they did this or where to get the materials? 

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    Aaron Hunsaker
    Drama Director
    Cedar Hill MO
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  • 2.  RE: Hercules the Musical

    Posted 09-09-2015 13:19

    http://www.disneytheatricallicensing.com/licensing

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    Michael McDonough
    New York NY
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  • 3.  RE: Hercules the Musical

    Posted 09-09-2015 13:39

    The musical version of Hercules does not exist. 

    https://lunerontheatre.wordpress.com/2013/08/27/will-disneys-tangled-and-hercules-hit-the-stage-next/

    Okay, so now I'm curious. I've watched a few of the youtube clips out there. One of them is student written, I think.

    For the others, it appears the school used the screenplay, then performed songs from the movie, not unlike what a lot of community theatre directors have done with Clue.

    If that's the case, then that theatre teacher (who POSTED it on Youtube) could be in a lot of trouble. It's a copyright violation to copy the screenplay and perform it as a stage play, and Disney is not the kind of organization you want to steal from. (I say this with only a tint of irony on my part as I parody Disney all the time) -

    But my guess is that this teacher didn't pay for rights at all, ripped off the screenplay, and violated copyright three ways from Sunday, and then posted it on Youtube. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he specially negotiated with Disney to debut the theatrical rights for a show that will likely go to Broadway and have an investment of $30 million. Maybe Disney decided his high school was the place to start work on their show and a one-camera Youtube clip was the way to introduce it to the world. I'm a little doubtful of that though.



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    Don Zolidis
    Cedar Park TX
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  • 4.  RE: Hercules the Musical

    Posted 09-10-2015 08:56

    I feel certain that if we turned in all of the productions done similar to this school's and others I saw on Youtube, we would be busy 24/7. The fact of the matter is that we as professionals have an obligation to not only protect the intellectual property of artists and organizations, even if they are perceived as soul-less companies out for nothing but profit. I asked about the production when I was on a "behind the scenes" tour of Broadway's Lion King, and a guest producer there said it was, "under development", but no specific plans had been made to mount Hercules on Broadway. That was six years ago. These teachers/directors only hope is that Disney either doesn't hear about it, doesn't care, or doesn't deem it important enough to pursue. Pursue the rights, people! If they aren't available, don't do it! It's not just about being caught, it's what is the right thing to do for the artistic community and our integrity as artists. That being said, I would love to see the rights for this released, if only for the suggestions from MTI on how to pull off the Titans.

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    Bruce Taws
    Panama City FL
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  • 5.  RE: Hercules the Musical

    Posted 09-09-2015 14:12

    As Don says above: most likely illegal and now the profile of the production has been raised, it will probably come under scrutiny of MTI and Disney.

    As far as materials: Disney looks to have created a stage version of Hercules (the Muse-ical) which played on their cruise ship(s).

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    Michael McDonough
    New York NY
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  • 6.  RE: Hercules the Musical

    Posted 09-10-2015 08:30

    That's what I thought. I just wanted to get others opinions on the matter and see if I missed something. 

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    Aaron Hunsaker
    Drama Director
    Cedar Hill MO
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  • 7.  RE: Hercules the Musical

    Posted 09-10-2015 09:02

    I've longed for Disney to create a musical version of that show for years. It is great music and a chance to study Greek History. Disney, Are you listening? 

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    Donnie Bryan
    Department Chair of Visual and Performing Arts
    Nashville TN
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  • 8.  RE: Hercules the Musical

    Posted 09-10-2015 09:42

    If you want to study Greek history and mythology do Don Zolodis' The Birds or The Frogs!!

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    John Perry
    Drama Instructor
    Atherton High School
    Louisville KY
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  • 9.  RE: Hercules the Musical

    Posted 09-10-2015 10:06
    Edited by Michael Johnson 09-11-2015 09:35

    The only way I could see performing any of this is if it is a portion of a Grand Work for school and or educational purposes and even then I think it would be pretty sticky.  I certainly would not perform a work in it's entirety with out permission. Don is probably correct as others have mentioned.  

    Often, the rights for songs are separate from the book or story of a work.  I could see however, doing this sort of thing in class-- selecting a popular book or film and have the students write, adapt and perform their work.  That to me is a totally different animal. 

    We are currently adapting a novel to the stage and I made sure to get permission from the publisher and the blessings of the author before proceeding or even entertaining the idea.

    Theater Folk has a Copyright for Teachers Handout on their website.  Worth reviewing for us all, I think.


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    Michael Johnson
    Trinity NC
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  • 10.  RE: Hercules the Musical

    Posted 09-10-2015 11:00

    Do you have a source to cite for your statement:

    The only way i could see performing any of this is if "it is 1/3 or less of a Grand Work"

    That's a new one for me; thinking it's an oft-repeated internet fallacy.


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    Michael McDonough
    New York NY
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  • 11.  RE: Hercules the Musical

    Posted 09-11-2015 08:42

    Yeah I will admit I have never heard that term either.

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    Aaron Hunsaker
    Drama Director
    Cedar Hill MO
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  • 12.  RE: Hercules the Musical

    Posted 09-11-2015 09:56
    Edited by Michael Johnson 09-11-2015 09:57

    Sorry for my error.  And I have revised my post.  Thanks for pointing that out to me.

    I was referring to the accepted practice where students may perform selections from plays and musicals for school events when and where students may be adjudicated and or graded and that work is for and purely for educational purposes.

    I think this just points out how difficult copyright is for Theater Educators, there are a large number of concerns for various circumstances and in many cases different considerations need to be made for class work, teacher led collaborative efforts, student created work, public performance and or festival work.

    The best thing to do in these circumstances is to seek out help from the publisher and or author.  Publishers are often more than willing to help teachers and to answer questions.

    As I mentioned earlier, we are currently engaged in the adaptation of a novel for the stage and we made sure to ask the author and publisher for the rights to do so before entertaining the idea.  It is very important that we uphold the standards of royalty and property as we know them to be applicable for our situation and circumstance.  

    These opinions are simply that my opinions and should not be taken with any legal weight what so ever.

    Thanks for the opportunity to contribute here on this community.  I find it a very helpful environment for us as theater educators.

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    Michael Johnson
    Trinity NC
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