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  • 1.  safety regulations

    Posted 05-28-2017 07:47
    Does anyone know where I can find safety regulations for a proscenium stage, specifically the weight limits for the stage apron above the orchestra pit? Is there a website or spot to look for and does each state have their own or are the rules universal across the country?

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    Rachel Cunningham
    Elwood IN
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  • 2.  RE: safety regulations

    Posted 05-28-2017 11:22
    It's really going to depend on what your proscenium is made from and how it's hung or built.

    When I did a water pipe for Singin' in the Rain, I checked with a district engineer to make sure what I was using wouldn't put too much stress on the building.  That's probably your best bet.

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    DavidWard
    Mt. HollyNC
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  • 3.  RE: safety regulations

    Posted 05-28-2017 20:07
    Contact Elizabeth Rand at rande@issaquah.wednet.edu She has written several excellent books on theatre safety. She is the theatre manager at Skyline High School (Issaquah School District).

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    Holly Whiting
    Drama Teacher
    Issaquah WA
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  • 4.  RE: safety regulations

    Posted 05-28-2017 21:59
    You might want to check with the head of facilities for your district. They should be able to give you information on how the stage was constructed and might even be able to get in touch with the builder/architect of the stage (depending on how old it is).

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    Ken Buswell
    Drama Teacher
    Peachtree City, GA
    http://mcintoshtheater.org/
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  • 5.  RE: safety regulations

    Posted 05-29-2017 12:16
    Thank you for this reference. Her books look great, I just ordered all three. I am starting a CTE tech program this fall, so these will be excellent references.
    RG

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    [Ron] [Gingerich]
    [Drama Teacher]
    [Phoenix] [AZ]
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  • 6.  RE: safety regulations

    Posted 05-29-2017 19:48
    I in turn will recommend Erich Friend from Home - Teqniqal Systems - he is the true Safety Guru!  It sounds like you are asking how much weight you can put on the apron - maybe you need to put a genie on there?  Or a heavy set piece?  Erich will be able to advise you.

    Thanks for the shout out Holly.

    Ron, enjoy (if that's the right word for reading Safety Manuals...) the books.  Glad to hear your school is supportive of a CTE Tech Theatre class!


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    Beth Rand
    High School Theatre Operations Coach

    Next HS Theatre Management Training for Drama Teachers online course: Fall Session starts Sept. 11. Spaces still available.

    Author of "High School Theatre Operations" and the "High School Theatre Safety Manual" and several more books on Amazon.

    www.PRESETT.org
    Woodinville, WA
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  • 7.  RE: safety regulations

    Posted 06-02-2017 18:32

    The safe load capacity for a structure has to be determined by a structural engineer.  Everyone else is just guessing.  As to what the intended capacity was (not necessarily is), you'd have to go back to the original design documents and see what version of what building code was applicable at the time the design was done.

    That said, you also need to understand the difference between 'live load' and 'static load'.  You must communicate what activity you plan to do on the stage so the structural engineer understands what the loading conditions are.  If you do not tell them, they will not know.  Most structural engineers have no idea what transpires on a stage.

    It is one thing to build a resting structure (piece of scenery) and have it sitting on the stage floor - that dead load that is generally distributed across the footprint of the scenery is usually pretty safe (unless it is made out of thick plate steel).

    The part that gets us all into the danger zone is the 'live load'.  This is people all moving about and/or dropping heavy objects.  If you look at the 'disaster videos' on YouTube of stages collapsing when twenty performers are dancing on a home-built (or inappropriately modified) pit filler or stage extension, what you see is A LOT of weight being applied to the floor in the form of people bouncing up and down (and typically in close synchronization with the others).  Have you ever jumped-up-n-down on your bathroom scale?  If it doesn't destroy the scale, you'll see peak 'weights' on the scale that are several times what you weigh when you are just standing there.  Twenty people at 180 pounds average weight, jumping up an down together, now you have about FIVE TONS of force.  Well, your floor better be able to handle that or you'll end-up in the hospital (and/or in court or on the evening news).

    Another consideration for the capacity of a platform is how it is supported.  For a given platform (all else being equal), if it is supported from underneath at all for corners (or maybe six places if you have middle supports, too), then it can probably hold more load than if it is only supported from one side.  When you have a stage apron that is cantilevered out over the orchestra pit several feet, then it starts to behave like a diving board - it bends a little when a lot of load is applied at the edge.  A concrete or steel structure (or even a wood structure if properly constructed) can support a fairly heavy cantilevered load, but a home built platform may well fail and break-off under heavy load.

    So, we have to ask ourselves several questions:

    Why are we placing a bunch of performers out so near the edge of the stage?  It is better to keep them back a bit than unreasonably exposing them to the risk of falling off the front of the stage.  This is particularly important if there are fight scenes or other ruckus activity - objects in motion then to stay in motion, and they tend to keep traveling in the direction they are already traveling.  So if a performer is headed towards the audience and the front of the stage, then you might consider changing the blocking of the scene so it is across the stage rather than towards downstage - this may keep them from falling off the stage and/or landing in the audience's lap should the scene 'not quite go as planned'.

    If the stage has been extended by some home-brew structure, has the school had their risk department sign-off on this?  Is the school covered in case the platform collapses?  If you have a commercially manufactured platform system (Wenger, StageRite, SteelDeck, etc.), has it been assembled per the manufacturer's instructions (with all of the braces and legs installed)?  Will you be using it within the manufacturer's guidelines? (is it rated to have 35 students dancing in-time upon it?)

    Why do we need to build the stage forward of the original apron edge?  I frequently see stages that are so full of clutter (or 'FUEL' as I refer to it) that they can't effectively use the space.  Move all of the junk off the stage.  I don't care where it goes as long as it isn't blocking a Fire Exit, but GET IT OFF OF THE STAGE.  Wow!  Now maybe you have enough room to do the scene you want without having to build forward.

    If you are placing monstrous scenery downstage, are you blocking the path of the FIre Curtain?  If so, you are in violation of the Fire Code.  A Fire Curtain must be able to fully deploy to the floor and seal against it.  Desks, chairs, platforms, choral risers, couches, tables, monitor speakers, pianos, etc., all need to be placed on one side of the Fire Curtain or the other - but NOT UNDER IT.  Move your scenery upstage a bit to unload the apron.



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    Erich Friend
    Theatre Consultant
    Teqniqal Systems
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