Paper models are a good way to visualize the concept, but they should never be started without understanding the story, doing the research, and having a good idea of where the design is going, and why it's going there. This is where doing sketches on paper first is so important. Otherwise the students run the risk of letting the medium control the design--a problem I have seen young designers run into when using SketchUp to conceptualize a design without putting some serious thought into it first.
Using blocks has its drawbacks too. I have seen the results of several "set design" classes where the students were presented with a box or a sheet of plywood and a collection of bits and pieces to pick from. What often results here is "art from found materials," or "crafts from found materials" instead of a set that will support the story, because it's so easy to let the medium control the design.
As far as AI, the day that it can learn to be inspired by existing work (like real designers do, to create original pieces) instead of just plagiarizing it, I will believe in it. Until then, in the case of set design, I just see it as a bad shortcut. I wrote a piece on this a few years ago:
https://setdesignandtech.wordpress.com/2021/07/12/get-inspired-but-dont-copy/
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George F. Ledo
Set designer
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Original Message:
Sent: 09-29-2024 12:28
From: Michael Johnson
Subject: AI Programs to Render Design Concepts
I use AI off and on-- mainly the large language model-- to help me revise sentences or to come up with ideas for topics. Currently, I think the tool is pretty useful for that sort of work as sometimes I just need a little push to help me figure out something, and even at that, I often will rework what is given to me in my own words. Some of the models will give you the source material used as well, which is pretty great.
Ultimately, for your workshop, I would suggest creating simple paper models as that is pretty rewarding and you can get a good feel for a model's direction in about an hour or so. Creating a paper model also will give students ownership over their ideas and allow them the opportunity to wrestle with some of the problems inherent in design. Using blocks in a box is a pretty good idea as well. Richard Rose, I believe, used to use video tape boxes to help him figure out shapes and scale. I have tried that with DVD cases and that's also pretty useful.
Best of luck with your lesson
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Michael Johnson, MA
Retired
Trinity High School
Trinity, NC
Original Message:
Sent: 09-28-2024 20:01
From: Kirk Longhofer
Subject: AI Programs to Render Design Concepts
Couldn't disagree more. Using AI for 'creation' of art is just as bad, if not worse than using it for problem solving. You are literally taking the work of others and stitching it together and calling it a 'new work.' That's nonsense.
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Original Message:
Sent: 9/28/2024 3:17:00 PM
From: George Ledo
Subject: RE: AI Programs to Render Design Concepts
Thank you, Kirk. I didn't want to get into this, but this is also encouraging students to rely on shortcuts.
At this point, AI is probably fine to use in creating art (pieces that stand on their own and don't solve problems) but design is a collaborative process that involves communication among the parties involved.
And yes, considering how AI is trained, there's always the danger of pkagiarism.
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George F. Ledo
Set designer
www.setdesignandtech.wordpress.com
www.georgefledo.net
Original Message:
Sent: 09-28-2024 13:36
From: Kirk Longhofer
Subject: AI Programs to Render Design Concepts
Please don't. Using generative AI to render 'concepts' is training your students to plagiarize the work of other designers. Period. Full stop. A workshop on scenic design might be the last place that should encourage the use of AI tools.
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Kirk Longhofer
Theatrical Sound Design, Audio Production, Editing and Engineering
Systems Design and Consultation
www.technopraxis.org
kirk@technoprasix.org
Original Message:
Sent: 09-27-2024 15:28
From: Russell Saxton
Subject: AI Programs to Render Design Concepts
ISO AI Programs
I'm preparing a workshop for next week where high school students will work in groups to create scenic design concepts. I'd love for them to use AI to render their designs, but I'm having trouble finding free and user-friendly resources that they can access easily on their phones or portable devices (no computers available).
Does anyone know of any AI platforms suitable for image rendering in this context? I'd really appreciate any recommendations!
Thank you so much for your help!
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Russell Saxton
Theatre Education
UT
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